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	<title>Comments on: Yahoo and the anti-phishing magic seal</title>
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		<title>By: Joao</title>
		<link>http://www.webbythoughts.com/20/yahoo-and-the-anti-phishing-magic-seal/comment-page-1/#comment-20607</link>
		<dc:creator>Joao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The seal cookie is stored in a Flash folder... if you delete it and your browser cookies... it&#039;s gone!

From: http://girishnayak.blogspot.com/2006/09/how-does-yahoo-sign-in-seal-work.html

Yahoo uses multiple methodologies to achieve the tagging of user system.

   1. Simple browser cookie
   2. Flash Shared Objects (.sol) Aka. Flash Cookie
   3. XML file in Userdata folder. 


Interesting part of the findings is how persistent the tagging has been. If you delete one source other one will help yahoo identify the system and recreate the deleted data.

How to delete Yahoo Sign In SEAL tracking completely ?

   1. Close Browsers
   2. Delete the Cookies from browser (IE : Tools &gt;Internet Options&gt; Delete Cookies , Firefox Ctrl+Shift+Del )
   3. Delete Flash Shared Objects from C:\Documents and Settings\{user name}\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash Player\#SharedObjects
   4. Delete YL[1].xml. On windows XP you can have it here &quot;C:\Documents and Settings\{user name}\UserData\{random folder like ODFXSDVY} \YL[1].xml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The seal cookie is stored in a Flash folder&#8230; if you delete it and your browser cookies&#8230; it&#8217;s gone!</p>
<p>From: <a href="http://girishnayak.blogspot.com/2006/09/how-does-yahoo-sign-in-seal-work.html" rel="nofollow">http://girishnayak.blogspot.com/2006/09/how-does-yahoo-sign-in-seal-work.html</a></p>
<p>Yahoo uses multiple methodologies to achieve the tagging of user system.</p>
<p>   1. Simple browser cookie<br />
   2. Flash Shared Objects (.sol) Aka. Flash Cookie<br />
   3. XML file in Userdata folder. </p>
<p>Interesting part of the findings is how persistent the tagging has been. If you delete one source other one will help yahoo identify the system and recreate the deleted data.</p>
<p>How to delete Yahoo Sign In SEAL tracking completely ?</p>
<p>   1. Close Browsers<br />
   2. Delete the Cookies from browser (IE : Tools &gt;Internet Options&gt; Delete Cookies , Firefox Ctrl+Shift+Del )<br />
   3. Delete Flash Shared Objects from C:\Documents and Settings\{user name}\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash Player\#SharedObjects<br />
   4. Delete YL[1].xml. On windows XP you can have it here &#8220;C:\Documents and Settings\{user name}\UserData\{random folder like ODFXSDVY} \YL[1].xml</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.webbythoughts.com/20/yahoo-and-the-anti-phishing-magic-seal/comment-page-1/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 13:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel it hampers our privacy while surfing the web. The sign-in seal doesn&#039;t depend on cookies or browsers. There&#039;s something more to it, which uniquely identifies my computer (more than an IP address). Even if I delete the seal, Yahoo! still knows that it is my computer and I have set the setting to not show the seal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel it hampers our privacy while surfing the web. The sign-in seal doesn&#8217;t depend on cookies or browsers. There&#8217;s something more to it, which uniquely identifies my computer (more than an IP address). Even if I delete the seal, Yahoo! still knows that it is my computer and I have set the setting to not show the seal.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 02:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s more than cookies.  Cleared the Firefox cookies and restarted, seal is there. Installed a brand new browser, like Opera, and the seal is there.  Must somehow get a number off your PC, like a MAC address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s more than cookies.  Cleared the Firefox cookies and restarted, seal is there. Installed a brand new browser, like Opera, and the seal is there.  Must somehow get a number off your PC, like a MAC address.</p>
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		<title>By: webbythoughts</title>
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		<dc:creator>webbythoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do understand how cookies work.  And for that exact reason I think this is a pretty useless method that Yahoo is proposing.  Anything that needs to get reset up everytime you clean up cookies or move to a new computer isn&#039;t going to be something that people are going to be willing to buy into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do understand how cookies work.  And for that exact reason I think this is a pretty useless method that Yahoo is proposing.  Anything that needs to get reset up everytime you clean up cookies or move to a new computer isn&#8217;t going to be something that people are going to be willing to buy into.</p>
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		<title>By: zed</title>
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		<dc:creator>zed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 18:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though you call yourself an &quot;internet man&quot;, you seem to have no idea whatsoever what it takes to id a website user. 

The server end simply does not get any more info (usable for unique identification) on you than your IP address (not exactly relevant) and whatever cookie is stored *on your computer*.

 As such there&#039;s absolutely no way to send you back your  personalized sign-in seal without you logging in first, if not done by cookies. And then again, cookies are tied to a single computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though you call yourself an &#8220;internet man&#8221;, you seem to have no idea whatsoever what it takes to id a website user. </p>
<p>The server end simply does not get any more info (usable for unique identification) on you than your IP address (not exactly relevant) and whatever cookie is stored *on your computer*.</p>
<p> As such there&#8217;s absolutely no way to send you back your  personalized sign-in seal without you logging in first, if not done by cookies. And then again, cookies are tied to a single computer.</p>
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